Curse

RSGashapon · Mar 16, 2007, 01:36 AM // 01:36

First off, I'm not saying the costs should be dropped to rock bottom prices, but 5k for items is just too much. Why does it cost so much in the first place? Oh I know that one, "gold sink" right? Fine. Gold sinks are a necessary evil in GW's economy, I accept that now.

But how about a compromise instead? Lower the cost of max dmg/AL items to 2.5k instead, and the high end ones from 10k to 5k. People might actually use weapon smiths again, if the prices were more reasonable. Even standard armor pieces don't cost that much! I see no reason to pay 5k for a sword, shield or bow that only have a common skin. Sure it has max stats, which is what I want (in my current case, a shield with RPD -5/20%), but the cost does not make it worthwhile. I'm forced to use a lesser value shield from a drop, with imperfect stats for how I play.

One item as an example, a Communing Focus (E+12 Req 9 RPD -5/20% HP+30). Materials required: 150 tanned hide squares, 50 glittering dust and 5k gold. That's more than what's in some armor sets my characters wear, total.

All I'm saying basically is the cost is too much. Make them reasonable and people will make more use out of them, but still keep them a gold sink if you must.

...And would it hurt to make the skins more varied, like regional perhaps? Every weapon smith makes the same skinned Tactics shield, or Longbow, or stave... expensive and boring, no wonder they are rarely used anymore.

Helcaraxe · Mar 16, 2007, 01:55 AM // 01:55

agreed, when I can get a green with relatively the same stats and cooler skin for the same price, or farm one myself... there is no reason for the weaponsmith to exist.

I think 1k + the current materials would be fine, and keep the same boring skins, 'cause the weaponsmith isn't supposed to be an artist, he mass produces weapons.

MirageMaster · Mar 16, 2007, 02:00 AM // 02:00

Prices should be capped at 1k,why should i pay 5k when i get collector items almost free?!!!

placebo overdose · Mar 16, 2007, 02:17 AM // 02:17

i think the skin should determine price not all the same

Tarun · Mar 16, 2007, 03:43 AM // 03:43

/signed - fix it

tenshi_strife · Mar 16, 2007, 03:52 AM // 03:52

/signed

lets see green for 1.5K or shit weapon thats ugly for 5K + mats,.... yea i totally ignore wep smiths, i dont think i have EVER gotten a weapon from them......

RPGmaniac · Mar 16, 2007, 06:01 AM // 06:01

Back when I was a newb, I bought a sword from a weaponsmith. Worst thing I could've done, I was practically bankrupt after that (I was and still am poor). The prices could definitely afford to be lowered, 5k for a generic weapon is too much.

/signed

DvM · Mar 16, 2007, 06:28 AM // 06:28

prices are already low enough...you can make 5k with any proffession in 5-6 minutes... no need to get everything in this game for free.

/notsigned

Deagol · Mar 16, 2007, 08:15 AM // 08:15

/notsigned

Making the Weaponsmith items cheaper would make collectors worthless.

Coran Ironclaw · Mar 16, 2007, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by DvM

prices are already low enough...you can make 5k with any proffession in 5-6 minutes... no need to get everything in this game for free.

/notsigned

5k with any proffesion in 5 minutes??!!!!!!!!

god-dam where?
thats 60k in an hour!!!

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VinnyRidira · Mar 16, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSGashapon

First off, I'm not saying the costs should be dropped to rock bottom prices, but 5k for items is just too much. Why does it cost so much in the first place? Oh I know that one, "gold sink" right? Fine. Gold sinks are a necessary evil in GW's economy, I accept that now.

I have no idea why there is a requirement for a Gold Sink. If you have treasures chests available in Vabbi you can make 6-10k in 20 minutes.

I agree with the sentiment, why have weapon smiths when they are patently useless. Not quite as useless as the rare scrolls trader though. Where are the impressive rare scrolls. (double XP scrolls, pah)

MirkoTeran · Mar 16, 2007, 09:11 AM // 09:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by MirageMaster

Prices should be capped at 1k,why should i pay 5k when i get collector items almost free?!!!

Then get it at collector.

/not signed

MirageMaster · Mar 16, 2007, 09:40 AM // 09:40

I always do.Whats it to you? got money from ebay to pay for crap weapons 5k each?

arcanemacabre · Mar 16, 2007, 09:52 AM // 09:52

I'd say, drop the cost to about 3k, and to make the collector more attractive, give them different/better-skinned items. Each collector could have a different skin for each item, almost like unique items. Obviously no rare-skinned items.

bilateralrope · Mar 16, 2007, 10:05 AM // 10:05

What annoys me about the current state of the weapon crafters in the Command Post. The one offering uninscribed weapons charges the exact same amount as the one crafting 15^50 or 15 while enchanted weapons. Personally I'd like to at least see prices reduced on the guy making the uninscribed weapons.

Kuldebar Valiturus · Mar 16, 2007, 10:12 AM // 10:12

I think if some of the skins were updated, people might be able to accept the costs. But, high cost for something and it not being unique is kind of lame.

I got some armor made in Kaineng City and 1.5 Platinum PLUS the materials was a killer.... 4 Monstrous Claws and for just the head gear, OMFG! It just hurt that the Claws were 850 gold each from the Rare Materials Vendor. And this is the cheap stuff!

I have a bunch of 20's but I can't seem to accrue gold on any of them. I get 6-7k and then <poof> it's gone.

I don't see a set of 15k armor in my future. :/

Raxxman · Mar 16, 2007, 10:25 AM // 10:25

Collectors are in general better.

eggs0wn · Mar 16, 2007, 11:15 AM // 11:15

/signed

Make it about 2.5k so it is worth it.

linh · Mar 16, 2007, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by MirageMaster

I always do.Whats it to you? got money from ebay to pay for crap weapons 5k each?

Wow, dude. I hate when everytime people say others who have more money to spend for things they want "Dude, you got money from eBay". That's just retarded.
And price in weaponsmith is fair enough. You know that is the cost for availability and convenience. They are always there and you can buy it whenever you want in 1 min.
Fine, if you want to save money and get collector items, then spend time farming for it or spend time spamming in town " WTB 5 etc..". The time you spend doing it is not worth saving 5k+ for weaponsmith AT ALL. But that's up to you tho.

Skyy High · Mar 16, 2007, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilateralrope

What annoys me about the current state of the weapon crafters in the Command Post. The one offering uninscribed weapons charges the exact same amount as the one crafting 15^50 or 15 while enchanted weapons. Personally I'd like to at least see prices reduced on the guy making the uninscribed weapons.

I think the point is that the 15^50 and 15 enchanted weapons are not inscribable. So basically, if you want one of those mods, buy from that trader; if you want any other mod, you need an inscribable weapon. I'm assuming the versatility of the inscribable collector weapon is supposed to make up for it not coming with a mod.